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		<title>By: Agile Quick Links #13 &#8211; nemrac.com</title>
		<link>http://collectiveedgecoaching.com/2010/04/the-tao-of-scrum-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Agile Quick Links #13 &#8211; nemrac.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 03:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Spayd has written a brilliant distillation of Scrum, as The Tao of Scrum. It boils Scrum down to its soul and essence. (Yes Sandy Scrum does have a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marcelo Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcelo Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good writing. This leads us to think always in the paths we choose and not get lost in the face of obstacles we face is how Scrum Master, team member or Product Owner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good writing. This leads us to think always in the paths we choose and not get lost in the face of obstacles we face is how Scrum Master, team member or Product Owner</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Milunsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Milunsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved this post. Very well written. Michael, I would love to be able to republish this post on my blog. I am not sure if you&#039;d be ok with this. I would obviously  give you full attribution etc. I would be love for my readers to get to see this post. Let me know.

Thanks
jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved this post. Very well written. Michael, I would love to be able to republish this post on my blog. I am not sure if you&#8217;d be ok with this. I would obviously  give you full attribution etc. I would be love for my readers to get to see this post. Let me know.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
jack</p>
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		<title>By: Don Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will be poster be available for purchase? Every team room should have one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will be poster be available for purchase? Every team room should have one.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Neis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Neis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Guys,

I agree with Tobias according to the fact that &quot;Sprint&quot; is Team&#039;s Job.

Stakeholders just check out at the Sprint Review when the Sprint Work is DONE.

Stakeholders haven&#039;t to loose their time with (impediment?), their wishes are A GOOD PRODUCT IN TIME... nothing else.

For the rest, great Metaphor.... I ever thought that SCRUM is some Management FENG SHUI....

scruming yours

Pierre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Guys,</p>
<p>I agree with Tobias according to the fact that &#8220;Sprint&#8221; is Team&#8217;s Job.</p>
<p>Stakeholders just check out at the Sprint Review when the Sprint Work is DONE.</p>
<p>Stakeholders haven&#8217;t to loose their time with (impediment?), their wishes are A GOOD PRODUCT IN TIME&#8230; nothing else.</p>
<p>For the rest, great Metaphor&#8230;. I ever thought that SCRUM is some Management FENG SHUI&#8230;.</p>
<p>scruming yours</p>
<p>Pierre</p>
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		<title>By: Cristian George Rapauzu</title>
		<link>http://collectiveedgecoaching.com/2010/04/the-tao-of-scrum-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Cristian George Rapauzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very inspired one-liners, almost haiku-like. Excellent.

In order to help the Team:
- navigate the waters of &#039;how&#039; and &#039;how long&#039;
- connect the Release- and Sprint-Planning
- connect the Product- and Sprint-Backlog
I thought a mini-guideline for the evaluation process of Stories might be useful.

It has 3 dimensions: Value, Effort, Risk (VER) with  scales from 1 to 3, under the control of 3 roles. The Client (Product Owner) marks the Value of the Story. 
The Developer (Team member) marks the Effort needed for the Story. 
The Architect (Team member with deeper knowledge of the system) marks the Risk of the Story (i.e. how disruptive to current architecture). 

The VER triplets could better inform the choice of candidate Stories to be transfered from the Product Backlog to the Sprint Backlog.
 
With the caveat:
Plans are worthless. Planning is essential. (Eisenhower)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very inspired one-liners, almost haiku-like. Excellent.</p>
<p>In order to help the Team:<br />
- navigate the waters of &#8216;how&#8217; and &#8216;how long&#8217;<br />
- connect the Release- and Sprint-Planning<br />
- connect the Product- and Sprint-Backlog<br />
I thought a mini-guideline for the evaluation process of Stories might be useful.</p>
<p>It has 3 dimensions: Value, Effort, Risk (VER) with  scales from 1 to 3, under the control of 3 roles. The Client (Product Owner) marks the Value of the Story.<br />
The Developer (Team member) marks the Effort needed for the Story.<br />
The Architect (Team member with deeper knowledge of the system) marks the Risk of the Story (i.e. how disruptive to current architecture). </p>
<p>The VER triplets could better inform the choice of candidate Stories to be transfered from the Product Backlog to the Sprint Backlog.</p>
<p>With the caveat:<br />
Plans are worthless. Planning is essential. (Eisenhower)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Spayd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Spayd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for your comments. Good discussion! I note that although Tobias is on break from expressing his opinions this week, his previously expressed ones still provoke controversy ;-). That&#039;s why we love you, Tobias!

Yes, I did mean the Sprint Burndown is for all to see. And, I certainly agree with Tobias&#039; point that it could encourage those outside the team to &#039;help&#039; unbidden. What I teach my teams, Scrum Masters and managers is that the information within the Sprint is for the team, because they control what happens during that time. The Scrum Master as sheepdog should be nipping at the heels of those stepping over that line.

On the other hand, it is the job of management to reflect back--from outside of the team--how the process appeared to go and the results obtained, during the Sprint Review or other appropriate time. I help managers see that this reflective, potentially challenging, role is part of their job. NOT to take back control from the team, but to coach and challenge and inspire the team to its own greatness. A team sees itself more clearly precisely by having a reflection from outside of itself. Management is well suited for that in Agile. See my presentation on What Manager&#039;s Should be Doing for their Teams (https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://collectiveedgecoaching.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/WhatManagersShouldbeDoingforAgileTeams.pdf)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for your comments. Good discussion! I note that although Tobias is on break from expressing his opinions this week, his previously expressed ones still provoke controversy <img src='http://collectiveedgecoaching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . That&#8217;s why we love you, Tobias!</p>
<p>Yes, I did mean the Sprint Burndown is for all to see. And, I certainly agree with Tobias&#8217; point that it could encourage those outside the team to &#8216;help&#8217; unbidden. What I teach my teams, Scrum Masters and managers is that the information within the Sprint is for the team, because they control what happens during that time. The Scrum Master as sheepdog should be nipping at the heels of those stepping over that line.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it is the job of management to reflect back&#8211;from outside of the team&#8211;how the process appeared to go and the results obtained, during the Sprint Review or other appropriate time. I help managers see that this reflective, potentially challenging, role is part of their job. NOT to take back control from the team, but to coach and challenge and inspire the team to its own greatness. A team sees itself more clearly precisely by having a reflection from outside of itself. Management is well suited for that in Agile. See my presentation on What Manager&#8217;s Should be Doing for their Teams (<a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://collectiveedgecoaching.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/WhatManagersShouldbeDoingforAgileTeams.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://collectiveedgecoaching.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/WhatManagersShouldbeDoingforAgileTeams.pdf</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Laramée</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Laramée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for post! 

Being a fan of Chris Corrigan&#039;s  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/details/TheTaoOfHoldingSpace&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Tao of Open Space&quot;&lt;/a&gt;  I was obviously drawn to this perspective of Scrum


Tobias,

Sprint burndowns should be highly visible and for all to see, including stakeholders.  I insist on having the Sprint burndown in the background during our daily Scrums and stakeholders are permitted to attend quietly.  My hope is that &quot;flat lining&quot; burndown will encourage anybody involved to ask : Can we do anything to help?  If that isn’t the automatic reaction and the room is filled with 
&lt;a href=&quot;”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Scrum Hawks &lt;/a&gt;, which is often the case; it can help the ScrumMaster identify quickly the smell and act on it.

As a Scrum, we need to build up the courage to be fully transparent and stakeholders need to develop &quot;the ability to hear unwelcome news&quot; (Esther Derby)  and react appropriately.  Thankfully all teams have experienced ScrumMasters to ensure that this happens ;) 

Cheers!
Eric Laramée
Agile Coach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for post! </p>
<p>Being a fan of Chris Corrigan&#8217;s  <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/TheTaoOfHoldingSpace" rel="nofollow"> Tao of Open Space&#8221;</a>  I was obviously drawn to this perspective of Scrum</p>
<p>Tobias,</p>
<p>Sprint burndowns should be highly visible and for all to see, including stakeholders.  I insist on having the Sprint burndown in the background during our daily Scrums and stakeholders are permitted to attend quietly.  My hope is that &#8220;flat lining&#8221; burndown will encourage anybody involved to ask : Can we do anything to help?  If that isn’t the automatic reaction and the room is filled with<br />
<a href="”" rel="nofollow"> Scrum Hawks </a>, which is often the case; it can help the ScrumMaster identify quickly the smell and act on it.</p>
<p>As a Scrum, we need to build up the courage to be fully transparent and stakeholders need to develop &#8220;the ability to hear unwelcome news&#8221; (Esther Derby)  and react appropriately.  Thankfully all teams have experienced ScrumMasters to ensure that this happens <img src='http://collectiveedgecoaching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
Eric Laramée<br />
Agile Coach</p>
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		<title>By: Michi Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michi Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tobias - I somewhat disagree with your comment about the &quot;chickens&quot;. I have used this term (including the background story, as I do agree that this is essential) many times with internal and external clients and not only does it get the message of stakeholder&#039;s boundaries within a Scrum environment across, it has also helped people to understand whether or not they are, in fact, &#039;chickens&#039; or if it&#039;s really their bacon on the line and they should therefore be more involved in the process than originally anticipated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tobias &#8211; I somewhat disagree with your comment about the &#8220;chickens&#8221;. I have used this term (including the background story, as I do agree that this is essential) many times with internal and external clients and not only does it get the message of stakeholder&#8217;s boundaries within a Scrum environment across, it has also helped people to understand whether or not they are, in fact, &#8216;chickens&#8217; or if it&#8217;s really their bacon on the line and they should therefore be more involved in the process than originally anticipated.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tobias, I have to disagree that the sprint burndown should be &#039;ONLY for the team&#039;.

I am of the opinion that the sprint burndown is just as important to the stakeholders as it is to the actual development team. if not then you have already violate the first Tao, &#039;The Way is Transparent&#039;.

For us we feel it&#039;s important that ANYONE should be able to see just how well, or not, the actual sprint is going. It&#039;s the Scrum Master&#039;s job to see to it that the stakeholders do not interfere with the sprint but they sure should be able to see how it&#039;s going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tobias, I have to disagree that the sprint burndown should be &#8216;ONLY for the team&#8217;.</p>
<p>I am of the opinion that the sprint burndown is just as important to the stakeholders as it is to the actual development team. if not then you have already violate the first Tao, &#8216;The Way is Transparent&#8217;.</p>
<p>For us we feel it&#8217;s important that ANYONE should be able to see just how well, or not, the actual sprint is going. It&#8217;s the Scrum Master&#8217;s job to see to it that the stakeholders do not interfere with the sprint but they sure should be able to see how it&#8217;s going.</p>
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